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		<title>Getting the Attention of Redmond.</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[One of my more insignificant accomplishments as a software developer is discovering an digression between the actual error code two Windows API functions returned and the ones the MSDN claimed they returned. These two functions are NetUserGetGroups and NetUserGetLocalGroups. It took Microsoft three months and one day to get back to me with there response [...]]]></description>
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<p>One of my more insignificant accomplishments as a software developer is discovering an digression between the actual error code two Windows API functions returned and the ones the MSDN claimed they returned. These two functions are <a href="http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa370653.aspx">NetUserGetGroups</a> and <a href="http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa370655.aspx">NetUserGetLocalGroups</a>.  It took Microsoft three months and one day to get back to me with there response informing me of the changes made and thanking me for my feedback. Also, towards the bottom of there response was the following text.</p>
<blockquote><p>A recent change on the MSDN Library has ended our ability to provide the<br />
e-mail based feedback system you have been using for the past few years.<br />
In the future, please take advantage of the two new mechanisms provided<br />
by MSDN:</p>
<p>(1) Ratings and Feedback &#8211; a feature that pops-up when you hover near<br />
the stars in the upper right hand corner of the Windows SDK<br />
documentation pages on MSDN.</p>
<p>(2) Community Content &#8211; a feature added to the bottom of each page to<br />
allow users registered with MSDN using a LiveId to ask questions and add<br />
content</p>
<p>We invite you to use the Ratings and Feedback features to comment on and<br />
give your rating for the topic itself. Please use the Community Content<br />
option to ask questions and add your own developer guidance on the<br />
topic. And continue to use the MSDN Forums for developer questions. We<br />
appreciate your patience with this change to our system and very much<br />
want your continued feedback, suggestions, and critique of our developer<br />
content.</p></blockquote>
<p>When I originally sent the bug report in there was no Community  Content section at the bottom of every API doc page on MSDN. However, it was there when I received my response.  Normally one would think that their response queue was backed up, and as a result it takes 3 months for them to get to these minor issues.  However, it should be noted that on March 25th, the day before I received my response, I sent an email to the <a href="http://wix.sourceforge.net">WiX</a> users mailing list about some issues with their documentation and received a response the next day from Microsoft Technical Evangelist <a href="http://bobs.org/">Bob Arson</a>.</p>
<p>Many of you will say its coincidence. However, personally I feel Bob<a href="http://bobs.org/"></a> pulled the Microsoft equivalent of my FBI file to see if I had any negative marks in the eyes of Microsoft. After seeing this was not the case he noticed I sent an as yet unanswered email to the MSDN SDK feedback team, and he made a phone call to bump that to the top of the queue.</p>
<p>While I don&#8217;t believe Microsoft has a file on me, I do think that Bob or another Redmond employee could easily search for all correspondence I&#8217;ve had with Microsoft&#8217;s feedback mechanisms under a given email address. I know someone that that works for Microsoft. He has found bugs in products his team is not responsible for.  Since he is a project manager, he can file a bug report internally and assign it directly to the appropriate programmer. The bug is usually closed unresolved and he is requested to file the bug through the public feedback mechanisms. This tells me two things. The first is their programmers don&#8217;t enjoy getting bug reports and hide behind bureaucracy. The second is that there is a unified bug tracking system at Microsoft. Assuming that public feedback mechanisms all filter into this, it would make sense that an appropriately entitled person could search for all tickets that reference my email address. If follows of course I assume that Bob was appropriately entitled.</p>
<p>So tell me folks, does anyone have any experiences with Microsoft Feedback teams that support or detract from my theory? Leave a comment because I would love to hear from you.</p>

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